Theoretically, yes, but practically speaking, only as downgrades. Hewlett-Packard Co. An HP sales representative identified only as Ruby confirmed as much in an online chat. Instead, she recommended we look through HP's small and midsize business banner, where HP preinstalls XP using Vista downgrade rights on some systems -- just as it does on some machines it sells from its enterprise section.
How much is it going to cost to downgrade to XP on a new PC? That depends on the computer maker. What about the "XP tax" I've heard about? The difference between XP in its usual form and XP as a downgrade is what some have dubbed the "XP tax," a surcharge, so to speak, derived from Microsoft's licensing requirements.
After June 30, those requirements limit XP as a factory-install to downgrades, and further limit those downgrades only when purchasing Vista Business or Vista Ultimate. At Dell, the Latitude D laptop comes standard with Vista Home Basic, the lowest-priced version of the operating system in Microsoft's arsenal.
But to qualify for a downgrade to XP Professional -- which is, remember, not just the only version that can be factory-installed but also the pricier of the two, Home and Pro -- customers have to opt for, at the least, Vista Business. But it can be higher. Knorr also published the contents of a letter he had attached to the petition. Here are the latest Insider stories.
More Insider Sign Out. Sign In Register. Sign Out Sign In Register. Latest Insider. Check out the latest Insider stories here. More from the IDG Network. Put XP into the public domain! XP was and remains a fine OS. Once you learn the relatively self evident ins and outs, it is terrifically easy to use and support. And the fan base provides more support than for any other software I have ever seen.
All of the new OS's are just for marketing, I ask anyone to point out any number of features that make 7 and especially 8 significantly better than XP. Why do you think it has hung on longer than any OS commonly available?
Speed and pinnable taskbar items are the two best things ever happend to Windows. Especially Windows 8 win7 on steroids. I run it on my 5yr old like a charm. It's not people running XP who have to be worried. The one WXP I have will be retired or just used off-line for storage. The main danger from the termination of WinXP support is that security holes in Internet Explorer will no longer be patched.
Anyone with a brain already switched to Firefox or Chrome, which will continue to be upgraded. If you're satisfied with the performance of WinXP and your current applications and your current hardware, then there is no reason to abandon your current configuration.
Save your money — and your sanity. I have used XP Pro since inception and apart from the poor software planning leaving gaping security holes, it has worked well ever since.
If I am forced to upgrade it will NOT be to W8, but I'd have to look at W7 as that is more intended for serious users whereas W8 is aimed at toys, sorry mobile devices, and is completely unsuited to large screen desktop use. And all the drivers needed for my ancillaries are available in XP but I'd have to research if they are around for W7.
I have 3, enabling me to VPN into several different customers' servers. Although I understand the Win 8 OS is lighter on the machine requiring less resources than Win 7 I would not consider Win 8 on an older machine that could not take advantage of the touch technology. Windows 7 is the go to choice for businesses and home users. Its unfortunate that if you install the 64bit version, the XP mode is cumbersome If you want to install a 32bit program, not all of them will work and the ones that do work will require homework on your own part.
If you have a business that has a ton of 32bit web applications or a lot of printers, stick to Windows 7 32bit. I am reading this website for the first time and thank you all of the input I am not looking forward to saying good by to windows XP I learned on the system. Stop this nonsence and keep windows XP alive.. This is Red Hat's entire business.
If you need that kind of support, they would be more than happy to oblige. A number of other vendors also can provide that level of support. There are thousands of tools that are necessary for full production environments Yes, you are correct. And those thousands of tools are all available for linux as well Novell puts together a distribution that provides all of this out of the box.
The only things that is really lacking is an Exchange replacement, but I see that coming in a couple of years from the various Mozilla projects. Thing is, Exchange is slowly dating itself. There are a few web services out there already, like Google Apps, that let you easily integrate email and shared calendars As these mature, Exchange is going to have to evolve or die out.
This is why these companies are in business, and they know how to talk to and reassure PHBs. You would be surprised. It depends on the market, but it sure is still out there and active in a none to small number of routers and closed blackboxes.
Not paying attention to consumer demand Score: 5 , Insightful. This is a clear case of a large company making what they want and totally ignoring consumer demand. What people really want is a better version of XP and for continued support. I'd pay for it in a heartbeat, as stability and speed is well worth money to me.
If they made an XP "better", I'd go for it and pay for the upgrade. That's the goal isn't it? For people to pay for the next thing? But, that's not what they are doing. They figure people want excessively high system requirements, "more secure" environments which aren't really better security models, just annoying prompts often and pretty graphics.
Re:Not paying attention to consumer demand Score: 5 , Interesting. I have over machines in my domain. I tend to replace one or two a month and they can pry my corporate copy of XP from my cold dead hands. For folks like me that don't necessarily have the latest and greatest hardware Vista isn't even an option the majority are single-core P4's with less than 1GB RAM.
I use Linux on all of my servers and my personal workstation but until I can run AutoCAD, Rhino, and Photoshop without glitching and at full-speed I can't make a complete switch.
The way Microsoft is alienating their lower-end customers like this is so tragic it's funny. I have to believe that there are other admins out there with the same problem. Re:Not paying attention to consumer demand Score: 4 , Funny. Re:Not paying attention to consumer demand Score: 4 , Interesting. I work for a large multinational corporation in the Emerging Technology group. We're on the same floor as the IT team that has to deploy Vista across 50, computers or so. The company as a whole employs more people than Microsoft.
Their XP deployment is quite honestly one of the tightest managed environments I've seen. I don't know if they've even set a date for it. They'll just install XP on new machines from HD images as always. So the individual consumer becomes beta tester for the big company consumer Now, I get IMs from a friend saying "Vista just keeps rebooting, at random.
Cool new features are cool, but All of which makes me wonder the following Q, when is Microsoft rolling out Vista in house? Re:Not paying attention to consumer demand Score: 5 , Insightful. Now vista, compared to XP Re:Not paying attention to consumer demand Score: 4 , Insightful. Isn't this an Apples to Oranges comparison?
OS9 was a 16 bit , non-protected mode OS. OSX isn't, and it is better. Same could be said with the G4s. Still, I went with OSX. Because like you said, it is better. Way better. A fully protected mode modern OS running the latest applications was worth a bit of a slow down. OS9 was yesterday. They're vastly different OSes. And yeah, Windows 3. And things got slower, and much more hardware demanding.
Sounds like my other significant. Or in other words Score: 2. The Linux desktop lifewatch, T minus 2 weeks. Of course, as all nerds know, anything that dies can come back as a zombie to eat that which is alive. But we're rational people here and could never imagine that. Dell has already stated that they will continue to install XP [dell.
Nothing dies in the Torrent Score: 4 , Interesting. Now all you pirates will have an excuse for downloading your Windows XP disc image. Someone check the spot price! Score: 2. I heard a rumor that oil speculators were moving money into XP Home retail box. Too late. I got mine on Saturday.
For those who don't care Score: 5 , Funny. Today our labs discussed WinVista Score: 4 , Interesting. And the fact that our few boxen with it run like dogs even with dual core high end processors. I call FUD. Interesting- Not to slight your comment, but my experience was the exact opposite.
Got drivers? I really think fanboi-ism has really overtaken Slashdot. I also have a pir. Vista is Microsoft's Vietnam Score: 4 , Insightful.
XP is here. I like that it took Vista to make people refer to XP as fast Why move? Score: 5 , Insightful. There are some things about Vista which are better than XP. There are some things which are worse in Vista, and we all know about them.
The copying speed. Re:Why move? Mayan Calender Score: 5 , Funny. This was foretold on the ancient Mayan Calender. Support Score: 3 , Funny. Score: 4 , Interesting. So if you won't be able to buy a new copy of XP any more, how long until one could reasonably consider it abandonware? But if Microsoft won't sell it to me, what can I do about it?
The only sensible definition of "abandonware" is when no-one will claim legal ownership of software. In that situation you can do whatever you want with the software because no-one is around to sue you. Could have sworn As I recall, when XP released, the tech community was quite quick to throw flak at Microsoft for releasing a "bug ridden feature bloated OS that hides it's inadequacies behind a pretty interface", with a great cluster of users vowing to never leave their precious, mature, stable, and resource-efficient Windows Somewhere along the line, XP mostly shed it's poor reputation, and replaced it with one of stability and speed on modern to previous-generation machines.
Somehow, even though Win2k's death clock was ticking, few seemed to notice or care. At some point, if you weren't running XP, you were either a die-hard 2k fan, or you were a business. Fast forward to now. Vista has been out for 20 months and has seen a service pack. Much of the tech community still throws flak at Vista for having poor driver support, being a resource hog, and often such flak is accompanied by a vow to never leave XP.
Vista's reputation may be slowly turning, but inside tech circles, throwing flak is still the norm. What's the difference? Quite simple really, XP had a catch situation with buying a new machine. Most users with half a brain cell would turn down Windows ME, as it was as stable as a vial of Nitroglycerin. Here's where XP had the advantage: Windows was a Business OS, and wasn't put out by Microsoft for Home users, so hence system vendors didn't market it on their machines. Vista, on the other hand, isn't coming from such a situation.
The 9x line has long since been discontinued. As far as I'm concerned, Vista isn't half bad. If there's a faulty driver, it will be brought to it's knees, but then again, so will XP.
I'm running 2 machines and both have Vista as the OS, and thus far I've had only minimal problems. To everyone bashing Vista, install SP1 first, please. It's not in the automatic updates, so you will actually have to google for it and install it manually. It fixed the file copying problem and if you revert to the theme, it works as well as used to work if you apply a few tweaks [dyndns. Re:Anonymous Coward Score: 5 , Informative. No need for that Score: 5 , Funny.
There are two sides to "support", problem support and security update support.
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